Dan Mott: Hey, and welcome back to another episode of just another LinkedIn Live, the show where we nerd out on LinkedIn strategies that will help you build your personal brand, grow your network, and scale your business. Each week we dive deep into topics like profile optimization, content strategy, networking, lead gen, and really everything in between.

Live every Thursday at 11:00 AM Eastern, right here on LinkedIn. I’m your host, Dan Mont, and today we are going to be talking about LinkedIn live strategies. So we’re supposed to be doing this with Gabe Leo, but he’s running a little bit late, so I’m just gonna wing it for a few minutes. . Um, so if you’re in the comments, uh, let me know what your own experiences with live streaming are.

Have you done it? Do you watch them often? Um, and kind of, you know, what are you hoping to get out of today’s conversation? So, uh, I love about Krista before we got started. Isn’t it too early for you, Mr. Gabe? It seems like it. He, I think he, uh, he hit this news button, so we’re just waiting for him to come in.

Um, yeah, Sarah, you got a few minutes, so don’t worry. No rush on, uh, on joining in. Get that kettle on and, and get cozy. We’ll get started.

Cool. So, um, while we’re waiting for Gabe, I guess what I was hoping to kind of get from today’s conversation is, I mean, I’m sure a lot of you know Gabe. He is an amazing live streamer. Um, and I’ve, I’ve been doing, I’ve been streaming for the past couple years on and off. I’ve done podcasts before. I’ve hosted my own.

I’ve joined, uh, as a guest on other people’s podcasts or live shows. And I’ve just always really loved the format. I suck it. Um, you know, like shooting video, if I have to look into my phone and like shoot video like this, I, I freeze up. I can’t do it. It’s really weird. But when I’m on a live show talking to people I am, you know, hanging out, it’s, it’s natural.

It’s just like having a conversation. So it, it’s fun for me to, to see like what Gabe does and, and how he kind of has those conversations, how he runs his live shows, and just the incredible fact that he does it every net of the week is, is really awesome. So, um, a bunch of people here, uh, Dusty. Hey, how’s it going?

Uh, Chris Hennessy. What’s going on, man? Sarah says, I love it. Don’t do it enough. Um, don’t do enough lives yourself or, or show up to them. I, um, I’m kind of the same way, right? I think I used to do a show called Power Hour for, for those of, you know, with, uh, with Matton, uh, Claire Davis and Aaron Geiger. We did it for a long time.

We did it every single week and then we kind of phased out for say, like the beginning of this year. And I knew that I wanted to do this show, um, even before we stopped doing that show. And I took like a long break and I think I, the, the biggest hangup for me was, How do I incorporate this into my, my overall go to market strategy, my LinkedIn strategy, my content strategy, Uh, you know, how are these things important and how do, like, how do I actually use that?

So it took me a long time to, to really kind of figure that out. But if I’m being honest with myself, it was probably a lot more procrastination than anything. So, um, , I think it took like sitting down, spending an hour actually figuring out what do I want to do? Why do I wanna do this show? What do I hope to achieve from it, and how do I hope to help people in the process?

Once I actually like documented that, wrote it down, then I kind of had that guide, I had that encouragement to help me push forward and actually get it scale scheduled, build the brand assets for it, get it together, start talking to people, invite them on to the show and, and literally just start going live.

Um, Let’s see who else is here. Yeah, Chris, the Gabe usually only comes online at night. Yeah, he does his show at night, which is really weird for me because I, uh, I, I very much like stick to office hours. So when I’m on other people’s show, obviously when I do my show Thursdays at 11, it’s, uh, it’s a really, like, that’s just what I’m used to.

And then I, you know, I shut down at 5:00 PM I put my phone away, I go hang, spend time with the family, and then, you know, like play video games at night to, to just, you know, unwind and get ready for the next day. So it was really fun being on his show and being like, Oh, shit. Now I have to get my, I have to get my head straight and show back up.

Like, to, to be able to talk about LinkedIn strategies at 8:00 PM and it was, it was really weird for me, but a really cool experience.

Chris says, uh, I’m the same way. I tend to overthink recording videos. Dude. I, um, Shit. I spent probably like an hour trying to record a like three minute video. One time I took like 50 takes and I still didn’t even like the final one and I just a, after that I just gave up on it. I was like, This is not for me.

Dusty says Gabe Leo is a legend. He’s a legend. If he shows up today, uh, I’m kind, I’m kind of mad at him that he’s, uh, he’s, he’s bailing on us, but, uh, yes, he really, he really is. He does, um, his, his live show. I mean, as you know, uh, that’s, that’s where we met Dusty. His live show is really fricking awesome.

He does such a great job with it. Uh, the thing, the thing I learned the most from him being on his show is how really good he is at engaging people in the comments. It’s super hard to be up here, live and have a conversation with one other person, go back and forth. You get, you know, really interested in what they’re saying.

You wanna learn from them. Uh, start asking them questions, go down rabbit holes. And then it’s super hard to kind like split your mind and be like, All right, I have to focus on the conversation at hand, talking to this person. And then, oh, shit, there’s all these comments coming up, and like, how do I incorporate those in the conversation?

Or, you know, maybe that comment was from like five, 10 minutes ago. Um, is it still relevant to what we’re talking about now? And do that. So he does a really awesome job of that. And there’s, there’s so much that. I learned from just being a guest on his show and how he engages in the comments to be able to like, take that away and, and try and apply that.

And I think I’m getting a really cool experience of it today, um, by having him not be here and being like, Oh shit. Now what do I do? What do I talk about for, for this episode? Um, Krista, I like both live and recorded. I feel they serve different purposes. They definitely do. So like this is something I’ve been trying to figure out.

So because I stuck at the recorded content and I’m much more comfortable with the, uh, it, Gabe just been me, said he’s having a technical problem, so hopefully it’ll be here in a few minutes. Um, yeah, because I suck at the, the recorded content, I’m much better at the live content. I’m trying to, like, I’m going through this process myself, right?

How do I take my live content and repurpose it and use it? I can use it, I can do it doing using script, but I just don’t have the bandwidth to actually do it myself. So I’m like, I need to, I need to hire someone to help me do that. Um, but then even then, like I took, I look at like repurposing strategies by taking my live content and then putting it onto my YouTube channel, and I just, I’m still very new to me, so I’m trying to figure out like how does that actually work?

Um, cause I know personally, like if I’m gonna go to YouTube, I don’t wanna watch like recorded live content. And Chris, I know you do a shit ton of live content as well, so like what are, what are your thoughts on that? I’d love to hear what you have to say. Um, boom. Right there, Chris. It’s, it’s the truth, man.

Um, and that’s why I need to get better at doing it. Like it’s, it’s hands down with this show, the number one I think I need to do. So thank you all for the encouragement and, and help in, in doing it and getting there.

Um,

Gabe Leal: Kevin?

Dan Mott: Yeah. Uh, don’t worry, you’re, uh, you’re not late cuz, cuz Gabe is more late than you Kevin, so you’re good.

Uh, yeah, I, I totally agree, Christa, it’s, that’s why I feel like repurpose, like for a 45 minute, a 60 minute show or podcast or whatever, you can kind of find those like 32nd, one minute, even like three or five minute clips. Uh, you can cut out the, the ums and ahs and all the, the filler stuff. You can get some, like, some good content out of it that does then feel more like a recorded environment because you are editing it.

Um, but it’s super hard to take the full episode and put it on there, at least from, from what I personally think or feel about it.

Technical issues. Um, Do you mean your alarm clock didn’t go off? It sounds like it, right? He’s uh, he’s, he’s our night owl. He’s our, here’s our, here’s our nightly live streamers. So, um, doing it in the morning is just, it’s, it’s not, uh, it’s not his way.

Thanks, Dusty. You rock

Uh, Christa the watch time is better on pre-recorded on my YouTube channel. So do you mean like when you’re actually shooting video to be meant for YouTube versus putting like a full live recorded episode? Or do you saying that like, if you take the live recorded episode and cut it up and edit it, that it’s like that that counts to.

Uh, Pat Flynn just posted about this. He said, When you ramble on a live later, people won’t watch the replay. They’re too impatient. I think that’s another good point too, right? I think the experience of actually being on the live, getting to comment, getting to engage as part of the conversation adds to the experience that you can’t get from watching a replay, which is, I think, really important.

Right. I mean,

prerecorded meaning I record on Zoom and upload to YouTube. Nice. Yeah, I think that’s, um,

that’s interesting. So do you, do you do like the full app or like, I guess, is it a Zoom like meeting or? Conference or like whatever, right? Like you’re doing like a live on Zoom or you’re actually just using Zoom as the recording tool to do it.

Yeah, I totally agree with you. Um, having an editor is, is definitely important. I probably spend like two and a half hours creating written content for LinkedIn alone per week. And then I’m also writing my newsletter. I am doing business development. I’m doing, I have three different businesses, right? So like, that’s just for, for the one step.

So like, I have a lot of shit on my plate. So to, for me to try and come in and be like, All right, now I’m gonna go spend another hour to and script to go cut up content and do that. Like, I did it a few times because it was like, Oh, this is easy enough, this is really cool. I got interested in the tool. And I wanted to do it, I wanted to build a process internally, so then that way I could know if I, if I hire someone internally or if I hire an agency, like what exactly I’m looking for and, and what exactly I need help with.

But yeah, I mean, it’s just, I, this is episode number seven and I, I think I cut up like the first episode or two, and then all I’ve just, like, they’re all just sitting there. I have, I have hours worth of content that are, that are going unused right now because I don’t have the time to do it myself. I could do it, but I don’t have the skills and it’s not something I’m passionate about.

I’m much more passionate about writing, so that if I’m gonna create content, that’s where I wanna spend it. Um, so yeah, I definitely need help with that. So anyone, uh, who’s listening, if you have a video editor, um, a va, an agency that you work with or anything like that, uh, please dma because I’m looking for recommendations.

Uh, I, I definitely need the help. Especially as I’m committing more and more to actually doing these, these this show weekly, uh, I’m gonna just have more and more content that I need to repurpose. I also too un like know that video is an extremely important component of, um, of my content strategy, and I’m not utilizing it enough, right?

Like, I can come here and I can go live once a week, but not everyone’s built for, for watching live content. Especially too, to like, to spend, uh, you know, 30, 45, 60 minutes of your day, just like coming in and, and listening to, uh, to content live. Taking over your schedule is, that’s a pretty big commitment, right?

So I, I like having that short form. So for a lot of people that, that aren’t gonna show up and watch my live content, I don’t really have any video content elsewhere, which is why I’m he and I, because I don’t wanna shoot video myself. I’m very dependent and reliant on the fact that I need to take the long form content, I need to cut it up and then repurpose it.

And again, because I just don’t have the. The skill or the desire to do it myself, I definitely need help. Um, let’s take a look at some of the other comments.

If Gabe doesn’t show up, I vote for bringing Krista on.

Christy, you wanna come hang out? ?

Gabe Leal: Um,

Dan Mott: do you both? I invite, I invite guests to choose if they prefer live or pre-recorded. Gotcha. Okay. So like, if you’re gonna invite someone to come on the show and then you say, Do you wanna go live or do you wanna do it recorded? And then you publish from there, that makes.

Dusty for real, . Otherwise, I wouldn’t know what I’d be talking about. Um, I’d probably get super meta on like how I build this show, which I can certainly do too. Um, or what I’m thinking about, especially because it’s so new. Um, like I said, this is only like episode seven, so I, when I, when I started, All right, so I’ll back it up.

I have, um, I have three businesses. Uh, the last one I started is much more community focused for solopreneurs. So when I was like, I’m gonna start this show and I want the main kind of focus to be on drive, like to be able to use this as a tool, content strategy to drive people to join the community. Um, and then I had to go, like, I’m currently going through a branding exercise, so I realized I kind of had to change some stuff.

and go return back to the original idea I had with the show. Obviously I called it just another LinkedIn Live for a reason. I wanted to be much more focused on LinkedIn. So if you go back and look at like the first five episodes, they’re much more focused on solar entrepreneurship and more of like general go to market strategies as opposed to being LinkedIn specific.

So now I’m like, I actually took a couple weeks off, uh, sat down and kind of still like went through the exercise. I still probably need to spend an hour or two kind of on the actual, like document itself. Like what is this show about? What are the goals, what are the call to actions, what are the main, what is the main purpose and the kind of like the learning from it.

So I need to go through that before I finalize, but I, I feel at least in a much more comfortable space and um, and like I feel like I have more clarity on what I want this show to be. So, um, All right. So I have successfully been able to scramble for 20 minutes, but it’s really all because of you and the comments.

So thank you so much for all your help. But Gabe has actually been able to make it. So, Mr. Leo, welcome to the show, man. ,

Gabe Leal: what is going on, man? Uh, first of all, this is the thing about live streaming, right? You never know what’s gonna happen. So, uh, was having technical issues with my device turning in here and can you hear me very well?

Yeah. Yeah. We good? Okay. Yeah, I was having problems with my, uh, actual laptop. So, here’s the thing. Um, you update to Windows 11 or some point, you figure, and you, you set it to say, Hey, yeah, not right now. Um, but then when you log in and it does it, it literally does not allow you to like, to stop whatever you’re doing.

To like say, halt, I need to use my computer right now. , wait,

Dan Mott: I need something. Please stop downloading .

Gabe Leal: Yeah. So it actually just kept going and going and going. Cuz usually, um, usually I have no issue with it. And, but, uh, again, this is what happens when you put things off, folks, , those things sort of happen.

So I do apologize for running behind. I had everything already set up and I said, Okay, good. I’m good to go. I just gotta log in. And Dan sent me the link and I’m ready to shoot and computer to log in to get there, and then boom, this is what happens. .

Dan Mott: Yeah, it was funny. You were like, uh, I sent you the link and you’re like, All right, cool.

I’ll be there in two minutes. And it was like, yeah, two minutes, five minutes, 10 minutes. And I was like, All right, I gotta go live. And I was just like, um, I was like, All right, I guess I’m, uh, I’m just gonna scramble and go live and see what happens. . But it was cool, right? Because I think, uh, you, you missed it.

But, uh, I, I was kind of talking with everyone about how. When I was on your show a couple weeks ago, um, one of the things I think you do incredibly well is engage the audience and like bring up the, like, spend a tremendous amount of time in the comments and actually like bringing people up to have that conversation.

Um, which is like the number one thing I wanted to learn from, from like, from that experience with you and like wanted to dive into it more today. And by you not showing up and then having people coming in, the comment , it was like it forced me into doing that, which is a really cool learning experience.

So I’m actually grateful, like I feel like this happened for a reason. It’s now re you’re, you subconsciously reprogramming my mind to be better about engaging people in the comments. So

Gabe Leal: Right. And that’s the thing about it is where I usually talk about, um, you know, Doc or I talk about all the time about wanting to, first of all build a community and make it inclusive and then this is how you make your community feel welcomed and part of whatever you, you’re doing as a creator.

Um, So that’s why it’s pretty important to build really strong communities and then to also keep them engaged. And I think by doing what you’re doing now and what I usually do on my live streams is one of the best ways to do that is to keep them involved. Let them feel like, um, they’re a part of the, the conversation that they add.

And I’ve had nights where they’ve added a lot of value, and that’s the thing, um, when you have a guest on and they ask questions and they do things, um, that kind of keep you guys going actively inside of our own conversation, that’s kind of vital. Yeah. Um, and again, this is a great way of how I tell people how they can actually use a LinkedIn live is to engage your, your people, your tribe, the people that come here and show up all the time.

Yeah. Um, you know, that’s where one of the things where I, I a lot of people. Sometimes pass up that opportunity by doing live streams. And I get, if you’re gonna do a webinar or something along those lines, um, you know, that’s, if that’s the objective, I get it. Because I think at that point you’re really looking to maybe repurpose that later on or use something with it.

So maybe there’s an editing reason behind why you don’t want to, but I still love the fact that people get the opportunity to, uh, be a part of the conversation. So, um, you know, that’s for me where as a livestream creator, um, I always say that’s a, sometimes a missed opportunity for some people. And, and, and there are individuals, I get it, that don’t, uh, quite grasp it or understand it just yet, like how to actually manage it.

But the thing is, it’s like practice over and over again. Once you start realizing how to, um, it pretty much becomes, uh, an instant part of. What you want to do. So I always ask, um, like a lot of creators, how do they see, like what the comments that show up in your live streams, how do they see those as, um, part of their own production?

Is it, is it something that they want to engage with or is it just, um, or is it just there? And I, and I like to always think about like, you could use it in segment parts as well. Yeah. In livestream creation, it’s like, Hey, we’re gonna do q and a in a few minutes, so if you got questions that you want, ask our guest, please drop them into comments and we can pull them up whenever we stop for that opportunity.

So yeah, they all have it, it all has value. So you’re learning an actual skill set that, um, hopefully will serve you somewhere else down the line. You’re like, you know what? I can, uh, I can actually do a live stream on my own. Yep. And use the comments and use the people that are there to engage and keep the conversation going.

So yeah, that’s, that’s always been a big part of. , Um, my game plan, and that’s part of the strategy that I teach to other people that come to learn what I do. Yeah. Is to let them know, Hey, make sure, uh, you make them feel comfortable. Make them feel warm. So like Yolanda’s here, Chris’s here, Travis, Dusty, uh, Mr.

Turner, all these Claire, Ms. Davis, all these wonderful people that are here. This is my

Dan Mott: last strategy. Number one, show 20 power.

Gabe Leal: Move it. It is diva move. It is a diva move. So, um, thank you so much for that guys. Um,

Dan Mott: thought they put you back in LinkedIn jail. What happened with that man?

Gabe Leal: So that was a story in itself.

So, um, I’ve been speaking up quite a bit lately for a lot of, uh, LinkedIn creators who have been filling the effects of being put. Uh, LinkedIn jail. Um, whether it’s because of a comment they made or an opinion or something that somebody might have been a disagreement on a post and it gets reported, or there’s AI that’s actually reading, uh, some of our content.

So, um, you know, those things have been happening quite a bit more. I’ve seen, I’ve been seeing it a lot more recently and I’ve been a victim of it myself. So, um, I had a show on Monday where I talked about censorship and this was part of it. It’s like, Hey, you know, as a, as a creator and coming here on the platform of LinkedIn, I get it.

They have a terms of service. I know it is their platform. They can do whatever they want with it, but you also have to be open to allowing your creators to express themselves as well, freely. And, you know, the whole thing that we talked about was just. Um, how you use it in context. Um, uh, I have Phillip Bieno on and, uh, the other night, and this is what we kind of touched on a little bit and how they use it in, in a professional atmosphere.

Um, and it’s the thing this ist a whole, this is, this is an adult platform. There’s not kids on here, like seven or eight that are creating, um, LinkedIn profiles, . So, you know, we are adults and we do know how to read the room and when to use that sort of language and when to be discretionary about it. So

Dan Mott: at least most of

Gabe Leal: us, most, at least most of us, not all of us, but most of us, And, and that’s where I talked about it because like I said, I had my account band, I lost my account, uh, access to my account like two days before I was actually launching my own string.

So yeah, that made me nervous as hell. Yeah. because I had planned it out. I already done all the promotion work. I’d already had all my guests, all their information, everything along those lines, and then all of a sudden to have that pulled out from underneath you. Yeah. I mean, it just really was an unsettling feeling.

Um, but the whole reason why I created my show in the first way place was to allow people that space to kind of express themselves without feeling they have to put a zipper or plug in it and not worry about what’s being said. Yeah. So that’s why, like I spoke about it on Monday and why I continue to champion it a little bit because again, uh, LinkedIn is starving for creator.

Or else, why the heck would you have a creator fund? Why would you pay be paying people to actually pay to do content? Yep. Um, so when you got people that are freely coming here to create content and yet you’re putting, uh, restrictions or parameters on how they can be creative, um, they’re gonna say Screwed.

I can just go do that on TikTok or YouTube or go somewhere else. And, um, somewhere where they value their creators and they give them more tools. So, I mean, that’s the catch 22 about what LinkedIn is. So it’s tough, but it did happen and it does happen and it’s still continuing to happen. So hopefully, um, if you’re filling the effects of that yourself to reach out to some of the other people that have had happen and um, like some of the avenues that they pursued to kind of get their accounts back if they ever do.

I mean, I’ve heard some people haven’t yet. So

Dan Mott: scary now. It can be, it can be an uphill battle. There’s not much in terms of support from LinkedIn side. And yeah, I know people who’ve had to like literally just spin up, just got tired of like, I’m wasting time. I could be creating content, I could be networking, I could be engaging and doing all these things.

And now I’m just sitting here fighting a, a battle that seems like I’m not gonna win. And like, I’ve seen them just say, Screw it and just register. Well,

Gabe Leal: I’m gonna say something to, I gotta say something to Chris’s comment there about following the terms of service or you won’t get the Top Voices Award

Um, look, it’s usually the voices though that, that you want along those, again, it speak up. Yeah. Those are the, those are the voices that you want of true leaders who are willing to step beyond the boundaries of just what people say they should say. So, I mean, in terms of Top Voice, I mean, if it is.

something that you’re striving for and maybe you want agree to the terms of service, go right ahead. Uh, I’m not shooting for it. And the thing is, I know a lot of creators that aren’t actually shooting to become a top voice in what LinkedIn has to offer. And even some of the creators that probably get those top voices, they probably don’t even know that they’re doing it until they get asked or get awarded the opportunity to.

Yeah. So I mean, again, it is their platform, but it is my voice.

Dan Mott: I think that’s a really good point. So then, and used to like you go, you’re not just on LinkedIn either. You, you stream to multiple platforms. So you do have the flexibility to be able to, if you feel like you’re being muted or being you censored, that you have the option to be able to kind of move off to a different platform like the, Yeah, it sucks to leave because there’s an amazing community here, but at the same time it’s not, it’s not gonna hold you back from, from creating the content that you want to create, which is awesome

Gabe Leal: and it, all that’s gonna make me do is go have to learn a new algorithm, new way to connect and go, new way to build up somewhere else.

If I’ve done it here, I’m positive that I can do it anywhere else. I would prefer to do it here. That’s my preference. But if I’m not giving you option, well then I’ll just have to go adjust and learn how to do it somewhere else. So I’ll be successful on another platform. Yeah.

Dan Mott: Uh, cause that’s what it’s gonna take, right?

We can’t let other people shut us down. If we need to go invest the time to go learn a new platform, to go experiment elsewhere, then that’s what it’s gonna take. And if we wanna succeed, then we’re gonna make it happen.

Gabe Leal: Absolutely. And I, and I will, I will promise that, um, you know, the individuals that know how to do this, it’s just gonna be a transition, easy transition for them to figure out what the algorithm is and how to build it up and go do it on another platform.

My thing is, why do you have to go to those extremes though, when you have a platform here that you could do it on and still be creative and no one’s saying these are derogatory terms. Um, yes. Um, there you go. That’s another thing, Christa, that’s good. To your point, get it. You know, don’t build it on one social media platform.

Um, you know, don’t, um, you know, don’t build. Uh, uh, you know, don’t, don’t build it on a, a house of cards and, and expect it to stand up and be strong and would stand, um, gusta winds and people hitting tables and all those other things. So I think, um, you know, that’s the whole thing about where you, you build something and even if you start building on social media, how to transition that into moving it offline into something else.

I mean, creators are doing it all the time right now. It’s happening with people building, uh, offline communities. Yeah. Uh, paid memberships, uh, for communities to people to join. So, I mean, the ability to still network and do it off of LinkedIn is still there or any of these social media platforms. So, I mean, I agree with your point there.

That’s a good one. Um, but it still doesn’t mean I should silence my voice even if I am on the platform though. So that’s, for me, that’s another thing is like still, I get it. You have to, you have rules, but then roles are meant to be broken. Sometimes. always always meant to be broken. Yeah. Always. Yeah. I break my own rules.

And that’s just the way it goes. So, um, you know, that’s how it happens. And for me, uh, that’s what I continue to do as a livestream creator. So, um, but the thing is still, um, you know, part of the reason why we’re doing this, why you’re doing this, um, is because we still wanna drive people to go, uh, learn about our content, find ways to help individuals, uh, learn how to do this themselves, use our experiences, what we’ve done in the past, and share that knowledge with other individuals.

And if we get paid to do it, we find ways to do it that way. Absolutely. Why? Why wouldn’t you wanna do it? Um, so I mean, even what you do in helping people, um, you know, , you know, helping people, I love the comments. People are just calling. Um, but, you know, helping people learn how to do it, uh, constructively, uh, yeah, constructively here through LinkedIn, right?

This is what you do as far as like LinkedIn selling and, and how to use live video and how to use a LinkedIn live. Yep. To help people, like entrepreneurs who are starting out and want to learn how to, um, either prospect, find clients, build their authority, grow their voice, start their message, whatever it is that they’re doing, and building their branding.

Um, this is what live video can do. Yeah. Um, and your proof of it, you do it all the time and you’re actually, um, creating content. Apparently people find valuable, number one cuz they reach out to you, they wanna understand how apparently they wanna work with you and you’re continuing to still do it. So I, uh, you know, there is an upside in benefit to doing a live stream besides just getting on here and talking.

Yeah. You know

Dan Mott: what, I think what I think is really cool, right? Like, I think I, I do this, I think you’re kind of the exception because you go live so much, uh, and you do it so well, but a lot of us spend so much time creating content on our own and just like putting it out into the world. And you know, if we have good called actions and questions, we get engagement and that sparks conversation.

Um, built relationships from there. But there’s kind of like this gap where I’m creating content on my own, um, right. Like you and I can come together and we can collaborate. I can be on your show and you can be on my show. And that’s really great for one on one content collaboration, creating content together.

But what’s really cool about the live experience is that like now there’s a bunch of people in the comments who are actually participating in the conversation and helping us create that content. They’re creating the content with us. Yeah. So kind of like it allows us to collaborate cr creatively, uh, collaboratively, create content at scale, which is like really cool and kind of unheard of anywhere

Gabe Leal: else.

Mm-hmm. , I mean, this is what Gary V talked about all the time, um, in what you can do creatively as, um, as a solo entrepreneur. As an entrepreneur, even as a business. I mean, I had, again, I had Pubis our Tuesday show with Philippe Cino if you wanna go. He did a LinkedIn live yesterday with his CEO of this company on their business page.

Yeah. Doing a live stream. So this not only affords you the opportunity again to share your message, but then to also reach out to individuals that you may not have had the opportunity to talk to. See, I mean, this is what the LinkedIn platform offers. This is why I don’t wanna leave here. Yeah. Um, is because you have the opportunity sometimes that are direct access, direct access to individuals like that, the ceo, cfo, CEOs, people, c-suite executives that are on this platform, um, who may not understand the value of it.

And somebody comes along and you show ’em how valuable it is, and then they realize it and they want to incorporate it, what they do, just like they usually do with like company newsletters and stuff like that. Um, you know, now that podcasting and, and live streaming have become more mainstream and people are more aware of it and, uh, they know

Gabe

Dan Mott: more technical difficulties. So the, the main takeaway from today’s show is don’t upgrade to Windows 11

Gabe Leal: I think you’re back. Can you hear me, Dan? Yeah. Yeah, you’re there. I think I might have froze up. Did I freeze up? Yeah. Uh, you’re back now. Let me see. There you go. Are you back? . All

Dan Mott: right, awesome. Yeah, we, we lost it for a second. I said the main takeaway from today’s, uh, episode is to not upgrade to Windows 11.

So, , Yes. Do not

Gabe Leal: do it on your own time. . Well do it on a timeframe where you don’t have nothing to do. So it’s like, yeah, turn it on, let it do it. And then, um, also, here’s some tips, uh, rules that Aren breaking, but you probably should do as a live streamer if you can. And when available, hardwire into your mode.

That is number one, because you’re gonna have direct access to your internet.

Dan Mott: perfect time to cut out

This is easily my favorite live show.

Awesome. So while we’re waiting for Gabe to get back, I actually, uh, I’ve been looking at this question from Rory, uh, since you asked. It is, I love this question is really great and I’m really interested to see what, uh, Gabe has to say on this one. So what moment and or who made you both decide to start going live?

How did you pick your first topic? So I think I got started with podcasting before I got started with live streaming. So it’s ohs, back . Um, so I think that it’s, um, it’s a similar format and in the fact that it’s like conversational long form going, like going back and forth, especially like if it’s with a guest.

So. That kind of got me a comfortable enough to be doing live streams. The only difference is obviously I can record a podcast and no one hears me. I’m kind of doing it in silo. I can edit and record it and or I can edit it and publish it. Uh, versus live is, is happening right now. So like when technical difficulties like this come up, um, there’s, you just gotta keep rolling with it.

Um, how did I pick my first topic? So I used to do, Okay, hold on.

Gabe Leal: I’m gotta switch this. There we go. Hello. Hello. Are we live again? Uh,

Dan Mott: I can hear you, but I, Yeah. Your, your, uh, video is still frozen.

Gabe Leal: Is it? Geez. Okay, hold on. I’m gonna leave and come right back. Watch this folks. I’m leaving. Coming right back.

Dan Mott: Um, so I used to do a show called Power Hour where I had three other guests.

Um, They had already started the show before me, so the show was established. So that, I think being in, doing podcast, being on other people’s podcast helped kind of ramp me up to get comfortable doing live streams. Then joining a show that was already established, I had other guests or I had other hosts on the show with me, uh, didn’t leave me like solely responsible for coming up with the content and starting conversations and, and maintaining kind of the engagement throughout the show.

So all of that stuff really kind of helped me get to the point where I was just like, now I’m super comfortable doing, doing live content. It’s not a problem at all. Um, how did I pick my first topic? So I guess I’ll talk about that because this is my, so this show right here is my first actual show that I kind of built and, and launched on my own.

So it was, it was very much around building the structure of the show first. where I was like, What, what is the purpose of the show? Why do I wanna do this? How does this fit into my sales and marketing strategy? How does this fit into my overall go to market strategy? My business strategy? So it, it very much had to align to what I was doing, the product that I sell, the services that I offer.

Um, that was kind of the structure. And then from there, I knew what my goal was, what I wanted to accomplish by doing this show. Um, from there, the, the topic for the very first episode became less relevant because I knew like, um, I’m gonna just have to jump into it and just do it and I’ll figure it out along the way.

Like I have, right, The first five episodes are completely different than this episode and, and what I intend this show to be moving forward because you just kind of go up and you learn and shit happens and you figure it out and you adjust along the way. Um, also to every episode of this show, except for one, I’ve had a guest on, so I’ve been leaning into heavily what is the personal expert expertise or experience of that individual who’s coming onto that show and how does that apply to the goal of my show and the audience that I’m looking to build?

What do they actually care about? What do they want to hear about? So that, I think is the most important factor for how I picked the topic or like the topic, the title of individual episodes. Um, alright, well, while we’re waiting for Gabe to get back, let’s just, uh, catch up on some comments.

Oh, hey look, it’s Claire. She was one of, uh, she was one of the hosts with, uh, with me on Power Hour. Uh, it’s like a company saying, uh, go do social selling. But then when they’re getting visible on social media, they get cold feet and sometimes take action like a layoff. Yeah. Um, the thing, so I was actually, I was funny enough, uh, Matt’s on who is another host on our show.

I actually grabbed dinner with him cuz he was in town the other day. Um, we were kind of, he like, he does a lot of workshops like the, uh, financial advisor sector. So this to me is, is a crazy thing where it’s like, yes. You know, like we encourage our employees to go be social, on social media to go build their personal brands because we understand the value that comes from having an empowered employee that that is, you know, a team member of our company, but then they come in with compliance restrictions and like block them from saying or doing certain things.

And I think, like, this is the most extreme example, I don’t think there, you know, there’s maybe a few other industries that are like this. Um, but it’s, it’s crazy how like companies want to see people building personal brands and want to, um, have them. Kind of take ownership of, of the conversation, um, with, with the buyer, with the audience.

It’s no longer about the company, it’s about the individuals that work there, but then they’re not doing, they’re not taking the right steps to, to empower them, to enable them, to give them the resources that they need to be better creators and better networkers. Um, and then you look at like extreme cases where they’re literally actually blocking them and shutting them down and preventing them from doing things.

So, All

Gabe Leal: right, Gabe, I’m back. back. Okay. Uh, another lesson number two, folks. Make sure that you charge your, your, uh, wifi hotspot, . Again, I’m gonna show you that, so I do have a checklist of things you should do before you go live. . Nice. Uh, but it’s like your, you remember your parents used to, uh, chastise you for doing things, and you see them doing it, and then they’re like, Well do as I say, not as I do.

Yep. Um, To me, . Um,

Dan Mott: so it’s so easy to stand to like stand up and be like, You should do these things and you should like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I don’t also do that myself. ,

Gabe Leal: Right? And it’s just again, how we follow the lines of like, even people who, who actually teach these things is trying to run . No, I’m not trying to make a run Krista.

I’m actually here to, uh, debate everybody and tell them why I’m trying to, uh, do this thing. Um, and why, number one, why as, um, as a creator, uh, who does live streams, uh, if you have your opportunities to do it in a more stable environment, sometimes we don’t have the option. So like, I’m trying to do this now from, um, my office where usually I’m at home in my studio, where my studio, I’m more comfortable.

And it’s a heck of a lot easier to do it for my studio cuz everything’s hardwired in. I don’t have these issues. Uh, I’ve kind of built that for a reason. And I also, only thing that I learned recently was that in the middle of a live stream, the other, like a week and a half, almost two weeks ago, I was interviewing my, uh, a, um, another live creator and I lost power due to a, uh, due to a thunderstorm.

So that was even out of my control. Like how, um, some of the things that can actually happen inside of a live stream. So even having everything, um, undercover and having everything on your checklist like there and ready to go, there are always, um, you know, unplanned circumstances that are going to happen.

And that was one of ’em is to lose your power and you’re doing your live stream and it’s thunderstorming and all of a sudden you lose power. The grid loses power. What do you do? Um, You

Dan Mott: to be the host and you log in from your phone, .

Gabe Leal: Yeah. So that’s, so that’s like a, so you learn in those backup plans.

Well, even in, um, lock logging in, um, so if you’re using say like wifi or anything like that, um, it might shut off even that. So, uh, I’m actually looking to buy a big, there’s a, there’s a, uh, a small, it’s not a generator, but it’s like a huge battery. Um, so that just in case that ever happens with the flick of a switch and you turn it on, uh, it’s got enough juice to power the live streaming to continue everything on.

You know, that’s for me how it is. And then of course, you do have your phone as a backup, like Dan said. So if like, hey, if something ever happens and you get kicked out of your own studio or your own live stream, which has happened to me, um, then you can actually just get in your phone, log yourself back in, and then you should be able to.

Hopefully continue the conversation or in the live stream, one of the two. Um, yeah, so you guys are getting actually a masterclass on all the things you can troubleshoot , um, inside of your livestream. So what are the things that can go wrong? Here’s how not to do a live stream. Here’s not how to do a live stream or to troubleshoot it.

And that’s the thing, like, so, so let’s just say as an example, uh, I’m having all these issues here trying to keep on even like log in doing all these things. So how do you troubleshoot, say your internet is bad. Um, how are some of the things you can handle that, like you said? So have a backup. Yep. Have your phone ready if you want to jump back in, know your links to hop into your studio.

Um, secondly, if there is, say you’re having issues with a camera so you don’t have your phone readily available with you. I don’t know who does it, but if you don’t, for whatever reason, your camera’s having issues or problems, um, You know, here’s some of the things that you can do, um, as far as like if your camera’s not working, even if you wanna continue on a conversation, almost like a podcast, um, you know, you can, you can turn your camera off and actually go to your avatar.

So if my camera stops working now, my avatar’s, Brian Shelman, for whatever reason, , I think I’ve done this in the past, but the con the actual conversation can continue on. Um, and, you know, you can continue to have a conversation. Um, I’m actually putting the tutorial, like how to troubleshoot your own live streams and what are some of the things you can deal with.

This is like dealing with your audio, your, your video, um, again, your wifi, making sure that your software, your computer’s up to date, um, a lot of things that are actually going wrong. So you’re actually getting a, a, uh, a preview of some of the things that I’m putting together, to put on my, uh, new YouTube channel.

Cause I have a new YouTube channel. Which is gonna be strictly about, uh, live streaming tutorials. Um, so how do you continue? I have an idea. So if you’re, so if the platform, um, shuts down, this is the thing about multi streaming. So say the platform is having a problem, Mike. So if I’m streaming on LinkedIn right now, uh, if I’m multi streaming to a second or third destination, guess what?

It just doesn’t go out to LinkedIn. It’ll be there for YouTube. It’ll be there for, uh, Facebook, uh, for whatever other platform you’re streaming to. So having multi streaming abilities, um, at the click of a button and you can actually do these in your studio while you’re live. So as long as you have your destination set up prior, uh, say you’re just streaming the LinkedIn now and your LinkedIn feeds goes underneath, cuz LinkedIn has been screwing up lately.

I don’t know if you guys have noticed, but there’s a lot of updates that they’re doing and it’s causing like, Streams to crash. It’s audio events to have bugs. There’s a lot of things that are actually messing up with the LinkedIn platform just because whenever they’re doing system updates like this, it will mess with just about everything.

Um, so if your platform shuts down, um, so like for, let’s just say there’s a whole thing where like, Facebook gone down, goes down, right? Cool. Don’t worry about it. Go if you’re streaming, have the backup. Have your YouTube set up, have your LinkedIn set up. If it’s reversed, your LinkedIn’s not working. Have your YouTube, your Facebook, all these other places set up and you can kind of direct people to go follow.

Um, simply by sharing a link, it’s like, Hey, you can follow the conversation here. We’re having issues. You know, people are more understandable in your community, more than likely is gonna say. Okay, cool. I wanna continue to follow the conversation. I’ll just head over to wherever he’s streaming at now and talk.

Um, That is where you can always have a, a, a backup as far as like what you can do or, you know, what, if it just goes down, just continue recording the conversation and then you can upload it later. I mean, there’s always options. Trust me. Um, there’s a workaround for everything and if it’s probably happen, um, I’ve had it happen to me.

So Yeah. So I know at least having trouble

Dan Mott: those things, if you’re recording the con, if you’re still able to, Right. Like as long as you don’t have technical issues that prevent you from recording, if you can record the episode. Right. Like say for example, if you have a guest and you can’t have them come back, they’ve already, you know, committed their time to you and stuff like that, you can keep recording.

And then actually like, uh, I, I use Streamy Yard. I think you use Restream, right? Gabe?

Gabe Leal: I use Restream Stream Yard, all of

Dan Mott: them. Gotcha. Okay. Um, so I know that like I can go up and I can actually create a live stream using a record. So like in that case, that’s just like another redundancy, another backup plan that you can have.

Yeah, sure. Like I was only able to get the content right here. Difficulties prevented us from going live, but we were still able to create the content and then now here it is, you know, we just need to reschedule or do whatever. So, yeah, and like you said, I think people are always understanding of shit happens, right?

Because we’re all human, we know it, we’ve experienced it ourselves. So when we see it happening to other people, we’re like, Hey, at least it’s not us .

Gabe Leal: Um,

Dan Mott: so I said, uh, you, you planned this, didn’t you?

Gabe Leal: You have to be planned . Well, I wanna, Hey, when I come on there, um, before, yeah, I think that’s a thing that needs to be.

So if you wanna reach out to me, like have where I could share your share with you. My, my live phone checklist before you go live, uh, dme, I will send it to you. Um, just a few things to always check off and be mindful of before you go live. Um, and yeah, I know shame on you, Gabe. You should be. Heating your own, you get a pass

Dan Mott: because you’re the guest, not the host.

You don’t to

Gabe Leal: have a checklist when you’re the guest . Exactly. And but the whole reason why these, again, these conversations and what we’re doing here are pretty invaluable, um, is again, these are learning tools that people are gonna go back and, uh, you know, decipher information that they might pertain to something they’re going through at this moment and or a problem that we’re trying to solve.

Um, you know, that’s a big thing about for what live streaming is, uh, most of the time. If you can create that content based around solving someone’s issues, uh, yeah, they’re gonna more likely want to tune in and see how, um, things that you’ve gone through, experiences you’ve had can kind of maybe help them further along their own issues.

So yeah, if it’s seeing all the troubleshooting issues that I’ve had today, um, I actually have answers for ’em and how I can actually either. Uh, fix them, rectify ’em while I’m either on the live stream or have alternative methods to, um, still be able to, like we did here, create the content and then share it out later on.

So there’s always value in it, man. Um, so you want a live stream plugin that can integrate, um, with my website, you know, I’m gonna tell you what most websites already have this, It’s just a, usually using an r rtmp, uh, custom setting, taking your stream key or embedding your stream if you have widgets. So depending on what websites you use.

Um, and you can add widgets to your website. Say if you’re using wics or, uh, words whatev, any of them, most of ’em are, are custom built. That way that you can add a widget in there, you can take your, you can actually take your YouTube feed embedded in through, cuz YouTube will give you in embed code. You can go there embedded into your website, go share your stream key directly from, uh, YouTube, and yet you can actually stream your YouTube feed in onto your website.

So if you don’t want it fed through YouTube, there are other ways as well. It’s a little bit more complicated, but you can do it. Trust me, we, I’ve done it before. Um,

Dan Mott: that’s definitely the easiest way to get started with that until you kind of like learn it, figure it out, and then

Gabe Leal: that’s why I’m gonna do tutorials on some of these.

Like, people wanna know how to integrate their, like their Zoom with say Restream or learning how to set up some of these things. Um, trust me, I’ve experimented with them. I’ve done it. So yeah, you can embed, I mean, I used to stream directly to my own website when I had a website up before I took it back down and like trying to get it rebuilt out.

Um, it was just an art, again, it was embedded into my website and people, if we were on the website, could actually see the live stream. Yeah. Um, but I’m looking for my WordPress. Okay, so she’s done it already with Kajabi, and you can do it through Kajabi as well, but you can, you can do it through a WordPress, trust me.

Um, reach out. I will kind of share how to do that. Um, that’s the fun part about doing it. But, um, most of these websites do have the ability to already do it. I mean, e camm what I use now, you can, it’s again, it’s pretty much a, a widget install and you’re good to go. I can share my website, uh, stream, I can share the stream to my website and it’s no big issue.

And it’s, it’s, again, it’s a little bit more complicated. Some people want to do it that way because they might have memberships to a website and that is a value valuable way to kind of keep. So that only your members can watch it on your website. So you would essentially, if you’re, if you’re using it, an example I’m talking about real quick, if you’re streaming it to your website, but you don’t want it to go out on YouTube and you’re using an in embed through YouTube, just set the video to private so nobody can watch it except for you or anybody that has that link.

And then just embed it into your, to your website and then people can go watch it. So only say your memberships that have access to your special website can go watch your content or watch your masterclass webinar, whatever you wanna call it. Yeah. So there’s always a way of work around and there are always creative ways to do it.

You just have to go try and discover or go follow people that already know how to do it and go learn from them. That’s the best way. Yeah.

Dan Mott: I’ve done that with like, some of my like, um, trainings that like just, uh, live workshops or trainings I’ve done before, which are just like, you know, free components of my course kind of broken out.

Like, hey, here’s, here’s access to like a snippet of it. Um, I’ve just literally embedded those videos into a page that was just not available, like on the menu. So, cause I don’t have the, the functionality to have like a login for, you know, paid subscriptions or whatever. Right. Um, but still, like even if you just have, you can kind of just go ahead and build any old webpage on your website, but then as long as it’s not searchable or accessible on your website, then you can, that gives you the control of saying, well only the people with this link can access it.

So how do I distribute that link? Whether that be through email

Gabe Leal: or Exactly. And that’s all or whatever. There’s a, yeah, there’s always ways. Trust me, there’s ways to figure it out and work around and, I mean, you have a pretty useful tool with Kajabi already. It’s really great to use. Um, I’ve been messing around with it and I’m pretty sure she doses it.

Like where here are some of her courses and stuff as. Pull the curtain back a little bit, maybe that’s probably what she does it for, but then she’s trying to do, uh, an academy, so I understand what you’re trying to do. So, um, uh, your architecture and then there’s no chat. Well, and that’s the, uh, so for some people, that’s the whole idea though.

So my thing is this, if you’re embedding it into a website and, uh, or you’re doing it through a webinar, like most, like some webinar platforms will allow you to do this as well, where you can’t integrate a chat inside of the actual streaming software that you’re using. I’ve seen it done, trust me. Um, uh, again, how many streaming tools have I found?

How many ways have I found things? I’m always just looking for different ways to do these things because if there’s, uh, again, if there’s a problem that somebody’s trying to solve, if you can have the solution, then they’re gonna come to you to wanna figure out how. So, That’s what we do here is live streamers, folks, and this is why I dedicate my time and my life to wanting to push the progression of, uh, how important live streaming is.

So there you go, man. Hopefully that can, uh, help you. And to her question their uh, as long as it is a landing page downloadable, that options me into your email list. Ahahaha. That’s coming. That’s coming. Trust me. It’s coming. Um,

Dan Mott: the only reason it hasn’t is because you can’t make a live newsletter. .

Gabe Leal: Well, that’s coming back too.

So I’m actually gonna, So mean, and Russ who’s in comment, we’re working and we’ve been holding meetings on now scaling that newsletter and making it more of a, um, making it more geared towards a newsletter for LinkedIn. And it is a live streaming event, calendar guide. So, uh, we wanna make it more, uh, accessible for creators.

Um, add more content to it. So write like pieces about each individual creators or shows or, so, I mean, there’s a lot going on in the background of what I’m trying to construct and put out there. Um, I wanted to do this six months ago. Few things came up in life, kind of just forces you to do things that you needed to take care of.

And now I’m in a more suitable position to now pursue a lot of these things. So it’s a live streamer. I am pushing my livestream agenda here on this platform and across, uh, wherever else you’re gonna see me, um, out there now every single day. So, yeah, it’s fun man. And again, it’s just another way for you to, again, reach out to people.

And I think you do this pretty well with what your streams are about and. Like the people that you bring on your show and interview. I think it’s the, um, your, it’s your target audience of what you’re trying to do as a, as a live streamer, cuz you are live streamer and as a, um, LinkedIn sales, um, practitioner, coach, however you wanna place it.

So yeah, doing a good job, man. Plus I always, I always loved the name. You picked a really good name, .

Dan Mott: Yeah, it was, um, like, I was just like, it has to be super meta. I’m like, I’m really big on doing things meta. So I was just like, all right, just another LinkedIn live. Especially as we see more and more of them created.

Um, which is why I was like, Oh, I’m gonna be talking about LinkedIn on LinkedIn, so let’s, let’s just another LinkedIn

Gabe Leal: live. Just another one. So, um, but you know, thank you, um, again, man for inviting me on and um, I know that I had some technical issues. I do apologize for the folks who tuned in and then at some point I’m gonna rebook again so that when I can actually be in studio.

and give you guys, you run through your checklist and run through my checklist and actually do all the fun stuff that I used to do whenever I’m on somebody else’s live. So, um,

Dan Mott: Kevin says, I think all guests on Dan’s show should, uh, let him know right before they’re going live that they’re upgrading their software.

No, I, I actually, I’m okay with that because then that is going to accelerate my learning process of being more engaged with the comments while I’m going live. For me, it’s, it’s the, it’s the hard split of like trying to, to focus on having a conversation with you or any other guests that’s on the show, and then also reading stuff at the same time.

Like, and then I, I’m not good at multitasking, so, um, then I, like, I start to fall apart and I, like, I, I lose focus or whatever. So, um, it’s cool, right? I think this has been a really, really great learning experience. So I said we were gonna get meta by doing a LinkedIn live show about LinkedIn live strategies with the king of LinkedIn live himself.

But now we actually even got more meta by, um, by going through and actually like going through those lessons in real time. In real time folks. Difficulties .

Gabe Leal: Exactly. And that’s what, that’s where all of this, um, you know, this is where all of this goes as far as like where. Teaching people in the education.

Part of where I’m fixing ahead into my journey is like taking all the experiences and all the, all the bad things that I’ve learned, all the good things that I’ve learned and everywhere in between, and putting them out there so that people can come find, uh, answers and I get to provide solutions to them of maybe some of the problems that they’re, uh, facing with their own, uh, creativeness, with their own creations.

And that is like, uh, one of the big agendas that, um, me and my buddy Russ have been talking about is just to get more people, um, the opportunity to create, cuz I think this is how we’re gonna keep expanding and, and growing what live streaming is. It’ll be in, in, they say in 2023, No, 2028. By 2028 it’ll be a, a 28 and a half.

Billion dollar industry. Yeah. So that kind of tells you where it’s going. And that’s even projected numbers from last year and it’s might even grow and accelerated even more because of things like, uh, life selling on Amazon and all these other platforms that are now live scale and all these other LA platforms that are doing it for strictly social selling.

So it’s getting more and more popular and we just wanna help people find their avenues, whatever that avenue is, and help them get to whatever their destination is. Yeah. I love it,

Dan Mott: Gabe. Well, thank you so much for coming to hang out. Um, as always, I just, I sap your wisdom about LinkedIn lives and, uh, there’s, there’s already so much I learned and already applied on today’s episode, on today episode, but can’t wait to keep doing it.

Um, keep following your journey, man, and, and keep learning from you.

Gabe Leal: So thank you so much. And, and I’m just gonna share this for quick before we hop outta here. Last, I, I’ve been streaming now for over almost four years. Um, and. I did something I’ve never done before. Last night, I, I actually virtually hugged somebody on my live stream.

So ,

Dan Mott: how did weird, how does that work? ,

Gabe Leal: Now I need to know. So it does involve a little tech, uh, play around. But, um, I’m actually gonna write a post, and post a picture of it today of like, what that actually was and how it looks like and where the technology and live streaming is, um, is leading us. So it’s gonna be like where you’re gonna, at some point it’s gonna look like we’re all in the same room together, um, simply by using some of the technologies that we already have.

So, It was fun, man. And it’s, it’s, again, I’m learning new things this whole year. I’ve interviewed myself already. That was one that was great. Yes. And now I hooked somebody virtually last night. So a lot of first for me, even in live streaming as long as I’ve been doing it. So yeah. That’s

Dan Mott: fricking awesome.

Uh, definitely tagged me in that post, cuz I gotta see that . Okay. got awesome. Uh, gave it for, for those of you who, who don’t, or for those of the people in the audience who don’t already follow along, who aren’t connected with you, um, you know, where, where should they connect with you? How should they stay in touch?

Uh,

Gabe Leal: best way to reach me more directly is of course through LinkedIn. Um, I’m there every day. This is where I spend the majority of my time, but on every other social media possible you can think of. I’m on TikTok, I’m on YouTube, I’m on Facebook, I’m on Instagram, I’m on Twitter. So if any of those other social media platforms are your jam and you hang out there and you wanna find me, I try to go under the same moniker on just about all of them so people can send me a little bit more.

Um, easily I go by my, I go by my persona name of, uh, the stream tornado, so you can find me there just about on all the social media platforms that, that you need. And you can keyword search me and I’m pretty sure I’ll pop up somewhere. So, Awesome. You go. Love it.

Dan Mott: Or if right now you can just click right on his face and go, uh, go shoot him a dm.

Yeah, .

Gabe Leal: That’s probably the easiest way to do it more than anyway. Thank you, Dan. Appreciate it, man. Yeah, I

Dan Mott: bet, man. Uh, thank you everyone for listening in. Uh, what was your favorite takeaway from today’s show? Let us know in the comments, but more importantly, be sure to go actually apply that to your own LinkedIn strategy.

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